Scandinavia and the World
Scandinavia and the World

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Still a long way 6 11, 6:37am

@Gelderland
It is absolutely mind-boggling to me that anyone can enjoy soccer and not hockey. The sports are similar, but hockey is better in every way when they are different, especially as a spectator sport. Then again, knowing people that play a sport has never been a factor in how much I enjoy watching the sport as a whole (when they are playing in that game, it can, but that does not in the slightest carry over to watching a game where the person I know isn't playing, just because they play the sport). I know many people that play golf, and I have even played it myself a few times, I know some that have driven a race car, and again, I even have myself a few times (not in a race, just on a real race track, although not NASCAR, this wasn't just a big circle, it actually had real turns), but as I mentioned, those watching those sports would be a fate worse than death, unless the people I know were personally involved (and I'd still find it painful, just slightly less so than death). While I loved watching football long before I personally knew anyone that played (although since then I have known some, even at NFL level). I have heard people here call hockey a game for rich people, which makes some sense, given that it isn't the cheapest sport to play. Truly poor people cannot play it, that is true. But how many truly poor people are there in the Netherlands? Far fewer than here (even as a percentage). It's not really a rich people's game, though, either. I played, and I have never been rich, and at the time I was closer to poor than rich. It doesn't cost as much as people think, many play that aren't below even middle class, although probably none below the US' federal poverty line (which is very low). And unlike truly posh sports, hockey in every way other than the cost threshold, is far more of a poor people's game. The ethos is much more blue collar. It's a game designed to appeal to the lower classes with its glamorization of violence, fast paced action, hard drinking, etc. Just look at the hockey movies - Slapshot (the best), you can't get more blue collar than that; The Cutting Edge - blue collar hockey player meets genteel figure skater; Happy Gilmore - same, except the genteel are golfers; etc. Really, the only one that has anyone remotely posh would be Mighty Ducks, and that's just the "bad guy" opponents, and the coach before he is redeemed by descending from his high class courtroom back to his humble beginnings.

Yes, it is a very interesting story. Personally, I'm not sure that stories are always more interesting when they are true, although in stories as remarkable as this one, it at least adds verisimilitude, as I might find it unbelievable if it weren't true, and by definition possible.

Yes, I agree, that is interesting. Our brains are so complex, and we can see the world so very differently, yet each person's perception can still be "true." One reason I find psychology to be a subject of interest.

I am usually not as fond of bluffing games. I think that's because deceit makes me a bit uncomfortable, although obviously I don't think it's truly lying when it's part of the game that everyone has agreed on. Still, it means I'm generally relatively bad at it. I much, much prefer strategy to bluffing. But sometime bluffing games can be fun, I do enjoy some...