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The roof is on fire, eh? 31 5, 10:38am

@Jacob If you think that you truly know nothing about our country. They feared democracy because of the overwhelming possibility of a demagogue taking over-which has happened in LITERALLY (I don't say literally in the way people nowadays use it, I mean it has actually happened in every circumstance) every country where unregulated democracy has been the government.

Explain to me why it is that your definition is more valid than mine. And do it without in any way, shape or form basing it off of your opinions.

Who were the 40k killing economic sanctions on? One can hardly blame all of those upon the nation. They were done to perceived (and often enough real) threats.

I did not say it was protecting anyone. I said such events are done and presented in a way that it appears to be protecting the interests of the people.

Humanitarian my ass. Your quote from Ted Cruz was him speaking out against a rule in Houston that blatantly violated the rights to free speech and practice of religion. It was every inch the violation of human rights as what Cruz himself has proposed.

They objected to democracy because focusing too much power in any given place will only end badly. LITERALLY every state wherein the Constitution does no limit what the elected can and cannot do with the law that's lasted fifty years or more has ended badly.
They most certainly did not want an oligarchy. Have you ever read anything by Jefferson? Washington? Adams? Franklin? The men who forged this country meant for it to last and for it to be in the best interest of all people. If you honestly believe this anti-American trash you're spewing, you're just as stupid as a hardcore Trump supporter.
You want democracy, popular rule, than Trump's you're man.

The Founder's vision? You mean:
Jefferson: "I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master." In a nation where people are willing to do anything to meet the mold of an individual, to be accepted as a freethinker in the whole mob of them.
Franklin: "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" Need I elaborate further? Without the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the Separation of Powers we'd have fallen to shit like every other nation did at some point between the 19th and 20th centuries.
Adams: "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." And there hasn't been one since.
Washington: "No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass." But you, in your American self-hatred can't see past the good our nation has done for others. Can't understand that our Founding Fathers intended for us to be kept afloat along the seas of history by the dream of liberty that united them.
Madison: "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." Another example of how our Founding Fathers saw Mr. Trump's rise to success. No tyrant will ever win by forcing himself upon the people. The government conspiracy you imagine determined to create a state where we're all property doesn't exist. It's the people looking for someone to take away all their responsibility, to take away the necessity of free thought.
I defy you to find one nation that has done better, screwed up less, screwed others fewer times, than our while also surviving more than our two and a quarter centuries.







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