Scandinavia and the World
Scandinavia and the World

Comments #9572579:


Imposter 29 12, 5:21am

@Keichwoud
Well, the climatic north of Europe is geographically north-east.
And the climatic south is geographically south-west.
So Denmark is like the south of nordics while Finland is the north of Nordics.
And the geometric mean location of Estonian population is more to the north than that of Norway (Edit: not Norway) and Sweden.

PS. It might also be one of the reasons why finns call the south-west as the real south 'lounas'.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilmansuunta
At winter solstice, the sunset in Estonia happens to the direction of south-west 'edela', while in central and northern Finland it barely rises and falls to the horizon at the south (finnish 'etelä'). The finnish north-east comes from the sunrise 'koillis' = 'koit' / sunrise in estonian language. And the estonian equivalent to north-east is 'kirre', possibly deriving from 'kiired' = (sunrise-)rays, or from 'kierros' / keere / keeru / keerd = one roundabout (of the sun around the earth).

PS2. So, if the estonian 'kirre' derives from 'kierre' / 'keere' = roundabout of the sun around the earth, then that attests that the understanding of the roundness of our planet has been ingrained into estonian language.

PS3. And the contemporary meaning of 'keere' is 'screw thread', implying that the solar precession was ingrained into estonian language as well. The finno-ugric folklore has other independent astronomical snippets that hint at the understanding of solar precession. But the 'keere' / 'screw thread' might reinforce that understanding. And the root might be of indo-uralic or even eurasiatic origin, because the south-west 'edela' has a co-meaning of the direction of sunset / evening and also exists in similar meaning in dene-yenisseian language group.