@v0ider
That's a very nice Quran quote you've got there. It's a shame it' s skewered to fit your narrative, and left out of context.
Here's the entirety of the verses in a modern translation, and with verse 190 added, as well as important parts highlighted with asterisks (by me):
(190) Fight in God's cause against those *who fight you*, but *do not overstep the limits*. God does not love those who overstep the limits. (191) Kill them wherever you encounter them, and drive them out from where they drove you out, for *persecution is more serious than killing*. Do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque *unless they fight you there.* If they fight you - kill them - this is what such disbelievers deserve - (192) *but if they stop, then God is most forgiving and merciful.* (193) Fight them until there is no more *persecution* [against muslims, personal remark] and worship is devoted to God. If they cease hostilities, there can be no [further] hostility, *except towards aggressors.*
From this, it's quite clear that the policy of Islam is defensive, and forgiving, when it comes to fighting. From verse 190, it's also clear that the fighting is not directed towards people of other faiths per se, but simply against those who fight you in the first place.
I think the only one in denial here is you, because you can't even post the whole source without undermining your own argument, and you only responded to the very first segment of my post, denying the (albeit rambly) core of it, addressing why you shouldn't considering muslims more brutish than anyone else; rather, they've been very progressive in some areas long before any other religions or groups followed suit.
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@v0ider
That's a very nice Quran quote you've got there. It's a shame it' s skewered to fit your narrative, and left out of context.
Here's the entirety of the verses in a modern translation, and with verse 190 added, as well as important parts highlighted with asterisks (by me):
(190) Fight in God's cause against those *who fight you*, but *do not overstep the limits*. God does not love those who overstep the limits. (191) Kill them wherever you encounter them, and drive them out from where they drove you out, for *persecution is more serious than killing*. Do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque *unless they fight you there.* If they fight you - kill them - this is what such disbelievers deserve - (192) *but if they stop, then God is most forgiving and merciful.* (193) Fight them until there is no more *persecution* [against muslims, personal remark] and worship is devoted to God. If they cease hostilities, there can be no [further] hostility, *except towards aggressors.*
From this, it's quite clear that the policy of Islam is defensive, and forgiving, when it comes to fighting. From verse 190, it's also clear that the fighting is not directed towards people of other faiths per se, but simply against those who fight you in the first place.
I think the only one in denial here is you, because you can't even post the whole source without undermining your own argument, and you only responded to the very first segment of my post, denying the (albeit rambly) core of it, addressing why you shouldn't considering muslims more brutish than anyone else; rather, they've been very progressive in some areas long before any other religions or groups followed suit.