Odds and Ends
Bye Bye England and Friends
3 4, 7:21pm
I was OBVIOUSLY talking about the fact that you said that democratic rules don't apply everywhere.
In any reasonable persons mind that statement from you is the chocking one that's worth discussing.
But it just once again prove you don't even have a basic respect for democratic values when you think that it's completely fine that people hear that you don't believe democratic rules apply everywhere - but you think it's an insult when I say "you're apparently prime for a Trump-style candidate".
Well guess what - this only proves that you are prime for a Trump-style candidate!
Normal voters don't support candidates that attack the very foundations of democracy and they don't cheer such a president on.
Trump-voters do, because they - just like you - don't understand that respect for democratic rules and values must be absolute in every single instance.
They - just like you and tulpoeid - think it's no problem if others democratic rights - like freedom of speech - are suppressed.
And they - like you - don't have a problem with people knowing it, because they think there is nothing wrong with being undemocratic.
So yes - you clearly have the potential to vote for an undemocratic candidate like Trump - because you don't understand that democratic values must be absolute.
You can't prove that much more clearly then you already have here - short of actually admitting it. But apparently that's where you draw the line.
You'll admit to believing that democratic values are not absolute - but you won't admit you could ever support a politician that actually practices what you preach.
That you consider an insult.
But whether you ever do vote for an undemocratic politician or not is any way completely beside the point.
Which instead is that you don't believe that democratic rules apply everywhere - so obliviously you have no problem with seeing Humons freedom of speech questioned here. In fact you don't even see the pressure that tulpoeid puts on it - because you don't really think democratic rules apply online anyway, as you said earlier.
You're operating from a world view that's clearly undemocratic, where shutting people up that says things you don't like to hear is just fine if you can do it - because democratic rules don't really matter anyway.
That's the real take-away from this discussion.
You probably don't realize it yet, but you're a result of the 4chan-isation of the world: naive young boys like you learn fascist ideals from a bunch of middle aged bitter men who failed at life and spend their time on line hating everything and everyone and carving out hollow little "victories" by harassing decent people.
At this point it doesn't matter if you've actually visited 4chan or not - you can get this "education" anywhere. That's why you speak in buzzwords and think a discussion is about who's "da Boss" instead of actually understanding the issue.
You don't care if you advocate for fascism - just as long as you can get that hollow little "victory" in your mind and feel like "da Boss" for a short time.
You've adopted the values of middle aged social misfits who's only consolation prize in life is trying to feel big by being fascist assholes online. And you're only 20! It's all just very sad.
As I said - let's hope you grow wiser as you grow older, but at this point it's a waste of time to debate anything else with you since you're world view is so fundamentally different from the democratic majority's.