Scandinavia and the World
Scandinavia and the World

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Home Decorator 29 4, 12:02am

@rphb

Actually it was never the conclusion of the US intelligence community that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction - that was the G. W Bush administration that copy-pasted together what the various intelligence agencies actually did say to get the answer they wanted.

The Bush administration wanted the war and they said and did whatever they needed to make it happen - including drawing assumptions from raw intelligence data that the intelligence professionals didn't actually state themselves.

The other examples you list are many decades or even centuries ago in an era when the US intelligence apparatus wasn't even a shadow of what it is today. There is no serious historical argument that the US intelligence agencies should have been able to know of any of these events before they happened - that's just ridiculous.

So what you offer up is a conspiracy theory - of course, since you've listed infamous conspiracy site InfoWars as a source for things earlier on this site.

The problem with that is that it might seem perfectly logical in YOUR mind - but you have to remember that the rest of us live in the real world and don't actually consider conspiracy theories to be proof.

Why trust a know liar you say? Well no one lies more then Trump for Christ sakes! The man has NO credibility what so ever!

Whereas the US intelligence community of course has an agenda here I'd say starting a war with Russia is clearly not it - that's part of the conspiracy theories you've been feeding on talking.

If anything the intelligence community's own preference would more likely be a return to the cold war since that would give them a major role to play. An actual war with Russia would a) not be handled by them any way but by the armed forces and b) be over in minutes and then we'd all live in a nuclear wasteland for the rest of our short lives, so no - I definitely don't think it's in the interest of the US intelligence community to start a war with Russia.

But if the motive here was to bring back the cold war to strengthen the intelligence communities power it still doesn't make any sense.

Partly because the intelligence community's actually never been bigger then it is now in the war on terror - they don't need to relive the glory days of the cold war - they are the cutting edge of American power already as it is.
The armed forces don't know what to strike with drones or attack with special op's without the intelligence to locate targets so the entire war on terror is driven by the intelligence community anyway.
And secondly - if they had this love for the cold war - why didn't they fabricate this evidence of Russian election tampering before?

The cold wars been over for decades and the US intelligence community has never once before claimed that Russia tried to interfere in any US elections - why not, if this was their goal?

There's also the fact that this conclusion is supported by numerous American allies in Europe, who have uncovered evidence of Russian attempts to infiltrate their societies and influence their elections as well.

So no - you're just refusing to see the most likely answer here because it's not the answer you would like.
But instead of any actual evidence or rational analysis you have nothing but conspiracy theories to offer.