Scandinavia and the World
Scandinavia and the World

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Home Decorator 29 4, 3:10am

@MiskisM

Well both obviously - Russians working on the behest of the Russian government. And possibly also non-Russians, but still working on the behest of the Russian government.
That's the conclusion of the joint US intelligence community in regards to the election in the US and there have as I said in some comment here been corroborating reports from several European countries about the same kind of activities happening there as well.

There where of course private individuals trying to influence the election too - every Facebook post is that - but that's not the point here but specifically the Russian governments involvement.

And regarding that "people from around the world" bit it actually seems like a large part of the privately initiated fake news came from just one single little town in Macedonia where teenagers feed Trump-voters outrageous lies because it earned them money on the web-traffic:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281

So no one is saying every single attempt at influencing the US elections were directed by the Russian government - that's not the point.
It's serious enough that the conclusion is that the Russian government actually did this - even if they weren't alone.

You might want evidence but being pro-Russian and Lithuanian my guess is your actually ethnically Russian and therefore not actually objective here but rather pro-Putin in your outlook?

Now Putin famously denied sending Russian troops to the Crimea, just to award medals to the same Russian troops moths later for the successful invasion of the Crimea - so he's not exactly to be trusted on anything.

And there is plenty of corroborating evidence here from young Russians who've actually worked in the troll factories set up to influence the west by spamming fake comments online and such.

Not to mention as I said that other countries security agencies have contributed own reports on these kind of Russian infiltration attempts.

Even if I guess that's the version you get from Russian state-owned media it's not actually the case that Europe is some extension of the US.
If the US intelligence community would be completely making these things up - in conflict with their own president - it's really unlikely that several European countries security agencies would go along with that and just spread lies knowingly.

And the US intelligence community can't make other countries intelligence agencies believe things happened in their nations if they didn't.

Unless you go full conspiracy theory here and believe that the US intelligence community is lying to not only their own president and congress, but also to all their allies and actually attacking their allies systems and making it look like the Russians did it just to make Russia look bad - but why would they?

It's simply not probable that all these different reports from different sources should all turn out to not be true at all.

Now exactly how big an influence the Russian government actually did get no one really knows or have stated - but the serious thing here is that all evidence support the conclusion that they did in fact try at all.