Scandinavia and the World
Scandinavia and the World

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The boat is being floated 21 10, 6:47pm

@stevep59 I am actually quite serious in how it will kill the entire EU. Lets just imagine this was actually the scenario where the EU and England has open borders without further agreements. What exactly could the potential consequences be of this? Well first of all goods can travel between them effortlessly which sounds fine.. before you realize that you cant trust the other country.

This is going to become a disaster for the EU in particular who has done a good job to protect themselves from bad influences outside through strict trade deals and border checks. All this goes out the window in this case though since they cant do that on the border to the UK.

Sure that means the UK will have allot of new trade partners since everyone and their mother wants an unprotected back door into the EU markets and the UK will be flooded by trade goods like China that they then transport into the EU to sell.

This will majorly fuck up the EU markets. Not only cant they control what comes in but they also cant control its quality. A factory might buy steel which they expect to follow EU regulations but instead get impure heap of crap that they cant use or food with no quality control that spreads disease or goes rotten on transit.

The whole point of the EU single market goes down the toilet and that is not even talking about malicious market actions and all because the UK decides to function as a black market port for the worlds sleezy businessmen and probably gets very rich in the process.

There would be no end to the damage that the UK could wrought upon the EU with the only insurance against it would be to "Trust me" that they will not do anything bad, and this is just the bare surface level of the literal shitstorm that would ensue. Suffice to say that no country would want to be part of the EU under these conditions and as such this is a fatal decision for the EU.

As for the money that the UK owes the EU the details are far too complicated for me to understand and would take months to read into if I even wanted a surface level understanding. All I can do is trust the expert civil servants, lawyers and diplomats on this subject just like the very politicians themselves because neither have any fucking idea whats going on by themselves. This is probably one of the most complex parts of the entire agreement in fact.

As for the internal politics of Brexit you got it all wrong. To start with Boris Johnson has and still is pushing for a no-deal brexit and everything he has done and is doing (including this newest deal) has been in effort to ultimately get a no-deal brexit.

To just recap the most recent turns of events (I might forget some but you will get the general idea). First Boris planned to suspend Parliament until they did not have enough time to get an extension, this was ruled invalid by a court and Parliament went back. After that Boris tries to push for a General election, this is because that would also suspend parliament and Boris has the power to set but also change the date of the election to be after the brexit deadline. This means a vote for an election even if Boris says it would be before the deadline means he can later change the election to be after the deadline and parliament cant do anything about it and as such its a surefire way for no-deal.

After this Parliament made a ruling that Boris has to sign a letter asking for extension if he cant vote through a deal before the deadline. This has been the center of the most recent fighting where Boris tries to avoid giving the EU this letter. Skipping a bunch of stuff he now proposes this new deal with the EU but his actual intentions is trick Parliament to vote for the deal, use that as an excuse to retract the extension letter and delay the deal getting into effect long enough for the brexit deadline to trigger a no-deal brexit instead.

As I said before there is no serious intentions of actually getting this deal, its just the most recent strategy in the struggle between no-deal and the extension of the Brexit deadline.