@Nisse_Hult Obama opened an old wound that was mostly healed. It is obvious we are not going to agree about this. Let's leave it to what has been said.
I don't regularly watch fox news, although I did read their political articles during the election. They are screaming children from what I can see. From the amount you talk about it I'd guess you do read them? To each his own, but I do not hold them in high regard. I will however not elevate the bad reporting just because everyone else does it.
"...League of Nations..." Funny I thought it was the punitive demands placed on Germany after the Great War. Mostly at the behest of France but supported by older traditions of European continental warfare. At least this is an interesting topic, and I hope you won't mind a few questions. Please only answer those you think are relevant.
Why do you think the US joining the LoN would have helped prevent WWII? I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that appeasement had been quite popular.
Wasn't Hitler quite popular in the US, Brittan, and indeed most of Europe before the occupation of Czechoslovakia? With the condition of the Weimar Republic wouldn't a Nation *Socialist* German *Worker's Party* have been popular anyway? Fascism was not yet known for the monster it would become.
In Italy, the Italian socialists and the patriotic socialists fought over political power. The patriotic socialists (fascists) won in part because the Allies had financially supported Mussolini's newspaper, The People of Italy, during the Great War. This is a vast oversimplification, but was Fascism avoidable considering the condition of Europe after the war? The Allies and Central Powers had done everything they could to gain an advantage and that had included legitimizing players of questionable character. The ideas that coalesced as Fascist style Racism were popular among many intellectuals at the time of the war. If the Second World War, or the continuation of the first if that is how you see it, had not highlighted these ideas in society's collective conscious what would the result have been? Basically, do you believe the war was avoidable and would not have come sooner or later? With the population of the earth continuing to grow and people still speaking of limited resources can we be sure these genocidal ideas would have been squashed without the war? As a species, are we lucky to have had this war before the proliferation of nuclear technologies?
Don't worry about Trump not leaving office. Our politicians leave office like clockwork. If they ever try not to they will be stopped by everyone. The second amendment may be a great deal of trouble but it can have its uses.
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@Nisse_Hult Obama opened an old wound that was mostly healed. It is obvious we are not going to agree about this. Let's leave it to what has been said.
I don't regularly watch fox news, although I did read their political articles during the election. They are screaming children from what I can see. From the amount you talk about it I'd guess you do read them? To each his own, but I do not hold them in high regard. I will however not elevate the bad reporting just because everyone else does it.
"...League of Nations..." Funny I thought it was the punitive demands placed on Germany after the Great War. Mostly at the behest of France but supported by older traditions of European continental warfare. At least this is an interesting topic, and I hope you won't mind a few questions. Please only answer those you think are relevant.
Why do you think the US joining the LoN would have helped prevent WWII? I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that appeasement had been quite popular.
Wasn't Hitler quite popular in the US, Brittan, and indeed most of Europe before the occupation of Czechoslovakia? With the condition of the Weimar Republic wouldn't a Nation *Socialist* German *Worker's Party* have been popular anyway? Fascism was not yet known for the monster it would become.
In Italy, the Italian socialists and the patriotic socialists fought over political power. The patriotic socialists (fascists) won in part because the Allies had financially supported Mussolini's newspaper, The People of Italy, during the Great War. This is a vast oversimplification, but was Fascism avoidable considering the condition of Europe after the war? The Allies and Central Powers had done everything they could to gain an advantage and that had included legitimizing players of questionable character. The ideas that coalesced as Fascist style Racism were popular among many intellectuals at the time of the war. If the Second World War, or the continuation of the first if that is how you see it, had not highlighted these ideas in society's collective conscious what would the result have been? Basically, do you believe the war was avoidable and would not have come sooner or later? With the population of the earth continuing to grow and people still speaking of limited resources can we be sure these genocidal ideas would have been squashed without the war? As a species, are we lucky to have had this war before the proliferation of nuclear technologies?
Don't worry about Trump not leaving office. Our politicians leave office like clockwork. If they ever try not to they will be stopped by everyone. The second amendment may be a great deal of trouble but it can have its uses.