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6 days ago #9773160            

5 days ago #9773181            

@Dan How do you upload images into the comments here?

5 days ago #9773199            

@LogicMeister
The usual bbcode tags. [ img ] [ /img ] no spaces.

Although it's finicky about parsing the url. Any modifiers after the file extension is likely to be dropped.

4 days ago #9773455            

@Dan Thanks

5 days ago #9773216            

@Dan I've seen a lot of anti, pro and neutral comics and sayings on Trump.

But this? This perfectly encapsulates him in a way I think few can deny. Even if you like him or think he's a good president, there is no denying that his brain is fickle and extremely egotistical, seemingly on a autopilot of things being his and his idea.

5 days ago #9773310            

@Dan So, so true to his egotistical personality.
If something good has been done, Trump will take the lion's share of the credit.
If Trump did not create it, it must therefore be bad, and he will take steps to destroy it.
If Trump cannot control it, blame Canada.
If anyone presents an alternate view, fake news.

3 days ago #9773681            

@Teeka
Trump does something good, Media tries to spin it so it's a bad thing
Trump does something bad, media jumps on him like it's the last domino to topple him
Moon Jae-in publicly credited Trump for his involvement in making these peace talks happen
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/10/moon-jae-in-credits-donald-trump-for-inter-korea-talks
So no this is not his ego running wild, you people act like North and South Korea were already heading towards this and Trump dropped in last second and said "You two make peace now!"

2 days ago #9773834            

@SomeRandomSmuck
Sure... you tell yourself that.
The rest of the world actually knows how incompetent the american leader is.

5 days ago #9773255            

I believe the general consensus is we're living in an onion article.

5 days ago #9773262            

@Tudpool An onion article is more believable. Must explain why people keep falling for them as 'real news'...

2 days ago #9773844            

As an American, I literally have never related more to brother America than in this moment.

1 day ago #9773975            

@marcuszer0 Yep, remember when Brother America was the embarrassing one?

22 hours ago #9774016            

@marcuszer0 *Sees all the upvotes* By the nines! Did someone put something in my mead?

5 days ago #9773373            

Today Babyhands-In-Chief did an interview with FOX talking about how Kim Jong Un is so respected in his country, that when he speaks people sit right up and listen... and how he wants that from his people.

Anybody with the tiniest bit of world knowledge knows that Kim's people sit right up, because they'll be shot or imprisoned if they don't.

This is not funny. This is not a joking matter. This is a frickin' line in the sand, where people --Democrat AND Republican-- need to formally chastise him, and say "No, we do NOT do that sort of thing in America." And if you don't think he's serious about this (because SOMEONE got through to him and made him say it was a joke), remember that he bullied the NFL into making patriotic displays of standing for the anthem mandatory. THIS IS NOT NORMAL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!!

4 days ago #9773493            

@TuxedoCartman

I didn't think he was that bloody stupid!!! Unfortunately I doubt the ego will accept any suggestion its capable of error. If he is forced to say 'sorry' or as near as anyone can get him to such a statement I would expect more heads to fall in the government and he will be plotting revenge for such an humiliation, which would be the only thing that I think matters to him.

4 days ago #9773510            

@stevep59 It looks like a classic case of the Dunning - Kruger effect. He is too stupid to realize he is stupid. I desperately hope I will some day have to admit I underestimated him but it doesn't seem very likely right now.

3 days ago #9773710            

@Rogers

Possibly less stupid [in terms of being very not intelligent] than so narcissistic and spoiled that he doesn't realise how stupid he is and so used to being abusive and contemptuous of others that he's used to ignoring and when he can sacking anyone who diesagrees with him. He's just find the concept that he could be wrong too alien to accept.

3 days ago #9773711            

@stevep59 You are probably right. He often behaves like a typical spoiled man child.

5 days ago #9773264            

As a person who has been watching this whole show from day one, I can say that this accurately portrays wtf is going on. Most Americans at this point are just watching this going down, eyes wide with bewilderment, and wondering if this is that universe where everything is a parody of itself.

5 days ago #9773265            

@Lichruler What's especially bewildering is that just about any one scandal the Orange has been involved in would have likely brought down any other US president. He just keeps piling them on.

5 days ago #9773284            

@ShoggothOnTheRoof Yeah, it's not like one President's administration was caught selling weapons to what was ostensibly an enemy nation and using the proceeds to finance pseudo-military organizations... some of which went on to turn to narcotics for income, with the blessing of the CIA, regardless of how it impacted US citizens.

5 days ago #9773294            

@Dena Oh, but he didn't remember doing that, so it didn't count.

5 days ago #9773297            

@Dena

But that was Saint Reagan, hallowed be his name! Of course he could do no wrong!

(And one can add that it was done in violation of the Iran embargo and behind the back of not only the American people, but Congress, which had passed a law expressly forbidding the Reagan administration from supporting the Contras.
So the Reagan administration broke not one, but several both US and international laws in the process.)

(So I agree with you. @ShoggothOnTheRoof 's comment should read "any Democratic president". Republican president can weather much more scandal, as their voters conveniently don't give a shit about what they do. Hell, even Nixon had a pretty firm support amongst Republican voters until the Republicans in Congress turned on him when the tapes where released.
But that was back in the days when even Republican politicians had a spine and a sense of shame. Now that's long gone of course.)

4 days ago #9773527            

@Lichruler Well, there's no difference here in Europe. We watch the latest news of Trump and are either in a "wtf"-state or grab our popcorn. What the hell is going on on the other side of the atlantic ocean?! And why is Trumps supporter base still so strong? Are his sups so... idk dump or ignorant or are they just persons like the Joker, who just want to see the world burn?

Trump could end the world order, which exist since the late 40s and it appears to me, that his supporters and the passive republicans (not those who fight against Trump) are like "Pff. Who cares?" This is simply wrong. Tell me: Why is Trump still in office? There should be enough people in the US, who can start a rebellion against him.

4 days ago #9773547            

@IcePhoenix Except the people who most hate Trump are the same people who hate the idea of common citizens owning firearms, and unarmed rebellions tend to fail. Their best bet would be to wait it out till Nov. 2020 & then see if there really are "enough people in the US" who'd vote for the other candidate.

4 days ago #9773592            

@Newnetherlander That's a good point, Sir.

Hopefully, the world won't have to wait until 2020... A nice little impeachment for the sake of peace and rationality would be fine. But... it's very unlikely so... Where's my popcorn? And where are my cat and my monocle?

3 days ago #9773713            

@Newnetherlander Rebelion? It takes one single bullet to end a man, no matter who he is. Although statistically, people like Trump are a lot more prone to shoot that bullet than to get it...

5 days ago #9773326            

Realpolitik hit you in your face, really. Seriously, all that Trump did, is that instead of bunch of pretty words and worthless assurance of "sincerest intentions" he presented a cynical idea of a political deal, in which both sides based solely on their own interests.

Basically it's the same old Realpolitik that great Otto von Bismark promoted: making decisions on the basis of considerations of given circumstances and factors, rather than explicit ideological notions or moral and ethical premises. Trump, being a businessmen apparently have a good understanding that a large part of politic is making a deals. And his methods gave more progress than any previous ideologically-based attempts.

Seriously, this comics is so absolutely stupid, that I'm appaled. Humon, my best advice - do NOT wrote about something you have little understanding of, like international politics.

5 days ago #9773345            

@Dilandu Grand Theft Otto

5 days ago #9773364            

@Dilandu You took the words right out of my mouth. These Trump comics are not entertaining to read in the slightest either.
And why is it that I can barely find any comments like this? Are mods deleting comments that have anything positive or defensive to say of Trump? Mine got deleted and I didn't even say much anything; "Another ignorant Trump comic" Is what I said. Is this happening a lot?

2 days ago #9773837            

@Lemonseizure

Poor snowflake you should go back to your safe space.

2 days ago #9773849            

@cmL I was merely speculating because I felt unsure. What's got you so worked up about it?

2 days ago #9773869            

@Lemonseizure

Nah sorry, got into a state of mind thanks to Dilandu's

''Seriously, this comics is so absolutely stupid, that I'm appaled. Humon, my best advice - do NOT wrote about something you have little understanding of, like international politics. ''

So when you continued by asking why werent there more people agreeing with you two i felt you needed your safe space back.

Normally i wouldn't be so direct, but Dilandu really needs to get back to his own. Poor sensitive guy can't handle these comics.

2 days ago #9773888            

@cmL It's just that I've heard some mods haven't done their job too well lately and I thought, that maybe it was referring to situations such as this, so I was curious about that.
So, it's either that there are similar comments being deleted, or that people just don't agree and don't post such things. More likely the latter, but I couldn't help but question it anyway.

4 days ago #9773424            

@Dilandu just because you don't like something, doesn't mean it's stupid. It's a common thing I see a lot. you want trump to do well, so you'll pick and choose to make it seem like he's doing well. admittedly, people who dislike him do the same thing. but at some point, you have to realize...there was no plan. this isn't "realpolitik". you say you don't like it when people go in with worthless assurances, and that's a valid point. but then you turn right around and applaud his assurances with nothing to back them up. it's the same thing, but you like *this* because you like the guy. That's not a good way to approach anything in life. And this isn't even including the fact that both koreas were in talks before he showed up.

I hope something positive does come out of this. I want him to do well. I don't enjoy disliking him, him doing poorly affects everyone. But he's got to stop halfassing everything. and it'd be nice if his supporters held him to a higher standard too. it might inspire him to actually try if he wasn't constantly being fed praise for other people's efforts. That's how you get spoiled children.

4 days ago #9773477            

@infr , as well as just the opposite; if you did not like someone, you would be unwilling to see the positive results of his actions, yes? ;)

Both Koreas were in talks for literally decades with little meaningful effect. Then Trump came and pull a classic Realpolitik trick: "you are threatening to pull out of summit? Well, then we cancel the summit. Have a nice day". Its basically classic of national-era of international politics. Granted, for the era of international era it wasn't common, but still workable as a method of bending the opponent.

2 days ago #9773838            

@Dilandu

Wait you think Korea didn't want the summit??? And you think South and North Korea has had no change in relations in the last decades? man you need to read more.

North Korea criticized comments from leading figures in the White house and put the summit plans on hold. As they also criticized the planned exercise between South Korea and US.

What ended up happening is the following: ''US cancelled the training exercises'', Trump guarantees and support the dictator of North Korea meeting with him as an equal and even saluting one of his subordinates.
And they sign a non-binding resolution with fairly poor wording which experts consider as weaker than what North Korea already has sign with South Korea recently.

If you see this as a example of statesmanship, you should read how Obama outmaneuvered the Chinese in the Paris climate talks. And my point of it being impressive is that he managed to stop China in achieving their goal of the talks (which was to create a bloc of countries to make their own agreement to the side of the west, lead by China), while achieving the goals of the US of being a leader in international relations and leading the talks.

4 days ago #9773487            

@Dilandu Trump got a ego rub and meeting a (unexpected to him) soulmate. Kim got security that the White House is in the hands of a meglaomanic, narcissistic clown who would love to be an autocrat but is too stupid to know it.

The good news is that since Trump is not a Lincoln, a Kennedy, a Luther King, a Ghandi or Jesuschist, he's not gonna be murdered before he reaches his full potential and nukes something. With any luck it won't be the whole world, but oh yes, I am 100% certian that Trump aspires to nuke something. And he'll strive to find a reason and do it.

And then the world will be over with the USA, will welcome our new Chinese overlords and call it a day. American empire started with a nuke and will end with a nuke. What a sad page in history it will be after all...

4 days ago #9773606            

@Dilandu Humon has never pretended to an expert really on anything, SATW is her entirely personal take on the universe, with special emphasis on the comical inhabitants of Earth. And you gotta admit, Trump is the best thing to happen to comics since God stole Adam's rib and repurposed it.
Whereas you... I'm thinking the great Otto von Bismark would maybe wait longer than 1 week to trumpet the mega-success of a deal between these two guys? Just maybe? Not that I don't hope your enormous optimism proves justified.

3 days ago #9773736            

@Dilandu Ye, it is on the level of a 12 year old. You have to remember that whereas one in the US has at least Fox and Breitbart, in countries like Denmark the CNN-style "news" is nearly 100%. They don't even notice the lies they're fed anymore, much like a fish doesn't realize it swims in water.

2 days ago #9773836            

@Dilandu

Realpolitik... is not this.

I think you need to know the difference between caving in, and actually negotiating or pressuring a deal. Trump caved.

17 hours ago #9774049            

@Dilandu Comparing Otto von Bismarck to... Donald Trump. This is beyond sad. Extremely authoritarian, outwardly pacifist, pro-monarchy... I mean, are you even trying? You cherry.picked his realpolitik, and think this constitutes an actual argument concerning the obviously sub-par Trump-persona? Honest to god, worst troll ever.

"His vision of a manipulative state that sustained its power by rewarding obedient groups remained with him throughout his political career." https://www.britannica.com/biography/Otto-von-Bismarck

6 days ago #9773033            

Some of us in America are getting “outrage fatigue”.

6 days ago #9773096            

@Robot-grrl Small ray of hope: the Democrats have averaged more than a 20-point swing in their favor in the special elections that have occurred over the last year. If that lead holds, they're guaranteed to retake the House, and even the Senate is within reach (barely), despite an overwhelming disadvantage in this year's Senate election.

5 days ago #9773191            

@kbdick actually... That hope of yours could be dimming rapidly. The US economy is in a state of strong growth and a positive outcome to the Korea talks does reflect strongly on Trump's foreign policy regardless of what his true intentions are, be they actually chasing peace or a self serving cash grab. Either way this is the closest the Koreas have been to peace since the start of the Korean War.

If this pace keeps up November will look very bleak for those who have made it a life goal to put an end to the cheese puff man, Republican, Democrat... Doesn't matter, those who insisted he was satan reborn will wind up getting ousted. As the public will only see the economy growth and families crossing the DMZ to hug each other for the first time in decades. They'll be obliterated.

Hell a lot of people were actually talking on various social media sites (even a few blue check marks) that a nuclear war with NK would be great because it would oust Trump... Which regardless of your opinion they're still advocating thousands and potentially MILLIONS of deaths by nuke just so they can play some moral superiority over how evil Trump was for letting it happen.

It's a dangerous situation for the left in the US. It's either take his side, pray for his failure, or lose everything. Hell even if Trump does fail more people would probably wind up sympathizing with him because of the media outlets dancing in the street over all the dead bodies and how Trump's to blame.

5 days ago #9773201            

@ProfNekko What a silly conclusion you're going for.

You're saying ''Closest the Koreas have been to peace'', is a both an optimistic and ignorant view of it. As we've been at this junction before in the peace negotiations.

Second, if foreign policy is to be a ''winning'' area of the Trump presidency, then he is failing spectacularly. As what he does in negotiations with a nation of 25 million does not matter much compared to damaging relations with the countries largest allies and trading partners numbering several hundreds of millions of people, and the largest markets for american goods and services. Not to mention a trade war with the second biggest economy on earth, China.

Both allies and enemies of the US is answering to the sanctions making this a totally new point in history, where the worlds largest economies are actually uniting against the US policies. You ever heard the expression divide and conquer? Well the US has made a new one, Unite and fight, basically uniting the only powers capable of hurting US economic interests instead of allying with one and fighting another.

''a lot of people'' is basically you talking out of your ass. Lastly one can agree with Trump pardoning people without accepting his presidency as anything other than chaotic and incompetent.

5 days ago #9773374            

@cmL

A very astute analysis of Trump's self-defeating trade wars.
The only thing he has going for him is the strong economy he inherited from Obama - and like everything else Obama ever did for the US, Trump now seems intent on wrecking it.

And together with that alliances and a world order it took the US it's participation in both world wars, hundreds of thousands of casualties and trillions upon trillions of dollars to build.

Trump is truly the best present Putin could ever wish for.
Or possibly bought for himself - we'll have to wait and see what Mueller's report says.

5 days ago #9773190            

@Robot-grrl
I feel for you, Americans with brains and a heart.
It must be tough to face the anger of people who won't tell the difference between "your" president and you, the nice Americans. Let's hope the next elections bring out a clear change and it may come...
I heard that the students of Parkland were going to travel through the States to ask for more gun control. They are admirable.
Anyway, don't give up to "outrage fatigue", your opponents are counting on that.

6 days ago #9773116            

It's interesting at the least. For all we know this could be the Ribentropp pact all over. Or Trump managed to actually get something done. In which case, despite him being a complete and total arsehole in my book, he deserves the credit that is due. I guess we'll see in a few days/ years/ decennia. I just hope my grandchildren, should we not wipe ourselves out before they are born, won't be learning this time from the history books as the beginnings of World War 3 or some such nonsense. Though a serious population reduction would actually benefit our species it kinda sucks when it's actually happening.

5 days ago #9773254            

@DutchToSwede Eh, the world population is leveling out as it is (if you ask Hans Rosling). We shouldn't need WW3 to reach a stable population. Than again, 11 billion people will need quite a bit of resources so we will have to see how that works out.

5 days ago #9773256            

@Laconic Precisely the resource aspect is the issue. People don’t like sharing and are easily willing to stab eachother in the neck for something as trivial as a smartphone. Guess what they’ll do for a bit of food. Resource wars are nothing new. Point is, there are too many of us and we seriously need to stop exploding our populations if we want to keep a semblance of peace and prosperity. All environmental and social issues would be a lot easier to deal with if there were some 3 billion of us. I see no ethical way of fixing this, though I’m afraid in the end nature will fix the overpopulation the way nature always does. Infighting, disease, infertility, whatever else she can conjure up.

3 days ago #9773754            

@DutchToSwede A new plague will come. It's just a matter of time.

3 days ago #9773793            

Trump could cure cancer, end poverty, and everyone will still find a way to take a piss on it. Do people not realize how spiteful they sound when they want the leader of a world power country to fail. be sure to write "I told you so" on their tombstone when we break out in nuclear war because they refuse on having nice things happen if it means they are wrong.

2 days ago #9773797            

@SirKibbz ^ THIS.

2 days ago #9773821            

@SirKibbz I often hear people say that they want Trump to be a successful leader, they just doubt his skills and methods. This includes this forum. If he really could do all the fantastic things he promises it would be great for almost everyone. Let's try to give his work a fair evaluation a few years after he leaves the White House.

But you are right that people absolutely hate being wrong. It's human nature and of course a flaw both Trump supporters and critics have.

2 days ago #9773832            

@SirKibbz

-.- If a man is telling lies being insulting and crude. He puts tariffs on our countries without following the rules we all agreed to. He is trying to break both world trade and our trading blocs. Why the hell should we care about a meeting he has with a dictator of a small country on the other side of the world? If anything we would be gleeful to see him fail miserably.

And no, that does not mean we want war, only party in this area which is even considering war is the US.

1 day ago #9773956            

@cmL several of our presidents have talked about facing the issues in North Korea, Trump rolls in and now suddenly things are looking up. Job opportunity is rising in America as we are pulling companies back in. Trade might be sucking on your end but that's not really our concern. He is putting America first, I know amazing concept when you are running your country to try and have your country pull on top.

1 day ago #9773963            

@SirKibbz

... Things are suddenly looking up? Or is it just you who for the first time actually have paid attention?

The only reason there is a slight adjustment from the media surrounding North Korea (Not considering Trump) is that there is a new leader. However their policies has been more strict than before towards their own and towards their neighbours, the rhetoric has worsen in many cases (not helped by Trump).

Your ignorance on how things have been before has blinded you to how things are going now. This is not only on North Korea, this is about the US as well.

2 days ago #9773924            

@SirKibbz
I had seen some old (over a decade ago, and even older) interviews he did on Oprah, where he actually had quite some good points and sounded reasonable, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt and I really hoped the whole campaign was just for show. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said that he was going to act 'more presidential' once elected. But alas, what we see here is the Truman Show becoming reality where the main character actually knows the cameras are on him. He's not distinguishing anymore between his 'reality tv' shows and his real life.

The result: lots of unnecessary drama, lots of fake news (or 'alternative facts') produced by him, and lots of unpredictable and downright idiotic behavior. And that actually scares me.

1 day ago #9773957            

@ImportViking really? We had Obama squeezing himself onto television and giving talk show hosts medals and yet Trump is gonna be portrayed as the television drama queen? The only drama is the piss fit media throws if the guy bothers to breath, you call it idiotic behavior but the man has done leagues more in 1 term than our previous President has done in 2. Everyone was freaking out about the threat of North Korea and now the threatening butterball himself is getting aquainted with mr.president. can we just get a tally on a scoreboard for this man?!

1 day ago #9773982            

@SirKibbz

1) I wasn't making any comments about Obama, just about Trump and his behavior. Not sure why Obama needs to be brought into this: you're not making a point or adding any value by doing so.
2) If North Korea didn't have nukes that could reach the US, Kim would still be 'little rocket man'. Which is a pretty aggressive approach in itself. Trump got forced to act more friendly and constructive once that point of no return was passed.
3) Trump hasn't done shit during his term except twittering, playing golf, accusing everyone of making fake news and telling everyone how much he has done. Just like he told everyone that his inauguration was the best visited in American history. We all know that the pictures didn't lie, though... One thing I have to admit: he has done more than any American president before in terms of pissing off his allies and friends and starting wars against them, though. But if you'd rather be friends with North Korea than Canada and Europe, then sure, go ahead. It says a lot about people who their friends are...

As said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first, but he just proved to be an orange utan in the white house. I am disappoint.

22 hours ago #9774005            

@SirKibbz : He wouldn't do any of those things even if he could. Stop bringing up bogus hypothetical situations and focus on what he has done. Here are just a few examples.

Appointing grossly unqualified people to the highest positions in the executive office.
Politicizing the justice department
Starting a trade war with our allies
Separating migrant children from their families
And you know, that Russia thing

21 hours ago #9774022            

@SirKibbz

Your description is EXACTLY how the Republicans and right-wing media treated Barack Obama - EXACTLY.

They gridlocked congress in every possible way they could, stalled every appointment, refused to negotiate on almost anything and did nothing but peddle the most extreme lies against both Obama personally, and the policies he pursued.

And Obama will go down in history as a perfectly capable president.

Trump on the other hand is an utter fucking disaster - both as a human being and as a president.
His White House is a raging dumpster fire of incompetence and corruption.

Last time I checked 51% of his original staff has already resigned or been forced to leave - several of which are under criminal investigations and some of which have already plead guilty to crimes.

Trump had, by June 1, made 3,251 false or misleading claims since he took the oath of office (The Washington Post has a running score).
That comes to over 6 a day - and those are only the ones he makes in public of course.
He's certainly lied more in private - and to himself, probably.

So it's not that people want Trump to fail - it's that we can all see him failing every single day, and we're obviously appalled by it.

The Republicans on the other hand really wanted Obama to fail - they said so openly and repeatedly.
But he was a much more competent person, and president, then Trump will ever be - so he didn't.

4 days ago #9773579            

-What a world we live in! Trump was playing nice with North Korea's leader, and I finally married Kate Winslet!
-DarkMage, this is just a dream. Wake up. Wake up!

*screen ripples*

-Whoah, I just had the... simultaneously the most awkward, and the most wonderful dream!
-It, uh, wasn't... a dream, DarkMage.
-YOU MEAN I'M ACTUALLY MARRIED TO KATE WINSLET?!
-....................................No, I mean..... about Trump and Kim....
-Very funny. Now, where's Kate?
-.....DarkMage, take a deep breath now...