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There's some suggestion that the Vikings preferred dying at home because then they could join the family in death, and Hel was believed to be a neutral place like the world of the living, not the cold, wet and boring place the Christians later said it was. If that's true, going to Valhalla was probably a perk of dying in battle. You couldn't be with you loved ones, but you got to party in Valhalla.

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2 months ago #9802553        
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Ah, I knew the Internet wouldn't let me down.
https://i.imgur.com/SJMF6o2.jpg

(Local copy. It's a wallpaper, someplace, but I don't like to link those sites since someone got a virus..)

2 months ago #9802516        
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Gives combat nurses a whole new meaning.

2 months ago #9804155        
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Nursing school would get popular really fast.

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2 months ago #9802827        
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I found a funny video with a sweedish navyship greeting a norwegian navyship with a waterhose https://youtu.be/Fyp53qb3E4A

2 months ago #9802747        
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Intrestingly, Helsinki airports abbreviation is "HEL".


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2 months ago #9802649        
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There was another way to get into Valhalla. If you were a good enough warrior, you'd probably end up dying in your bed simply because you were too good in battle. For those warriors, they could get into Valhalla by carving Tyr's rune into their flesh on their death bed, and die with that open wound.
It's also hard to say how much people liked the thought of Valhalla. There were probably times when it seemed like a good deal and other times when it didn't.

Folkvanger was another option, although you had little say in whether you went there. You had to be picked by Freya, so perhaps it was a good idea to groom yourself before battle.

Ultimately we know very little, mainly because Horatio Nelson destroyed like 90% of all relics of that period before anyone had figured out how to translate them.


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2 months ago #9802597        
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I've read that there was a distinction between Helheim, which was dull and not nearly as good as Valhalla but open to all those who died unremarkable deaths, and Nastrond, which was where the Wyrm Nidhogg chewed on Murderers, Adulterers and Oathbreakers.


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2 months ago #9803869        
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But I think you'd still go to Valhalla if you died because you were sick cuz it's kinda like a battle just against yourself, just like how women who died during or after childbirth would also go to valhalla


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2 months ago #9803227        
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My interpretation of Valhalla, Folkvangr, Hel's hall, and that hall of snakes and venom is that the way to look at all of them is in the context of an viking or early medieval feasting or King's hall; The people who go to the various halls after they die are guests, with all the rights, responsibilities, privileges, and duties of a guest. So the gods will provide you food and drink and entertainment, because that's what a good host does, and Odin and Freyja and Hel are presumably good, model hosts suiting their status as Kings and Chieftains of the Aesir.

So, under that interpretation I look at Hel's hall not as a punishment, but rather a quite, humble, comfortable hall. All the murder crazy psycho pirate warriors get snatched up by Odin and Freyja, not necessarily as a "eternal reward" in the sense that Christians would think of it, but in the sense of viking age and early medieval warriors; Odin and Freyja are literally picking the best warriors among the slain and gathering them up in to their war-bands. They'll feast and host the valorous, and when the Sons of Muspelheim come to burn the world the valorous will fulfill their obligation in kind by serving in Odin and Freyja's war-host. Meanwhile those who do not fight in life will dwell in Hel's hall, which is more suited for the temperament of farmers, merchants, fishers, and artisans; Quiet, comfortable, and not full of drunken murder-vikings fighting and raising a ruckus at all hours of the day and night.

If you're one of the warrior class that was considered the most socially and culturally prestigious at the time you'd certainly want to go to Valhalla to enjoy roast pork and sweet mead every night until the final battle, but I have a suspicion that the rest of society would be quite happy to be welcomed in to Hel's hall, whatever protestations they might make in public for the sake of appearances.

And, if I'm remembering my Edda, Snorri does mention another hall, woven from snakes that face inward and spit venom on the denizens there, which is reserved for oath-breakers and kinslayers and other reprehensible persons.


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2 months ago #9802570        
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Yeah even I would rather die at home than dying outside.

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