Too top to be gay

There's an easy answer to why only bottoms are seen as "gay" (often with a derogatory implication).
Ancient Greece is often seen as very gay-friendly, but the truth is, sex was mostly seen as a matter of penetration, and by extension domination. The gender of the person a man slept with didn't matter as much as their sexual position. This is why Ancient Greece was so misogynistic, because women could only be the "submissive one" during sex, and men who bottomed were seen as weak because they had the "position of the woman".
Same thing today with all the "So who's the top and who's the bottom?" nonsense about gay male couples that basically became Gender Roles 2.0, because societal norms still view sex (gay or straight) as a tool of domination rather than an act of intimacy. It also explains why lesbian relationships were completely ignored in Ancient Greece, because there was no man involved.

Homophobia is just the weird inbred child of misogyny and toxic masculinity.

@Spiclypeus spot on Spiclypeus. How depressing that the same shit is still going on today.

@Spiclypeus Once i read than after winning duel some vikings humiliated their rival even more by having sex with them just right there, unconsensual of course, with the winning one being top. That not a gay sex but as a way to dominate them and putting their rival on the position of a woman. Getting laid is okay, making love is wonderful, using a dick that way is the worst way. Even pissing off, literally, their rival would be a better use of that part. As a guy i can't but look down on that things. Anyone doing that isn't a guy but a dick head

Love Turkey's expression at the end

@MooseFace Yeah, he's thirsty for that image. I wonder who else was in that photo...

Kinda glad you did a comic on this.
Yes, its called the pink certificate, and you need to present 10 photos of bottoming for another guy. The military doctors want to "diagnose" them gay. Its a human rights violation. While homosexuality is not accepted in many places, there are actual neighborhoods where trans people live so it feels like being gay is more controversial.

Turkey is definitely secretly gay, and that expression is hilarious.

@xenophilius I appreciate you providing context on this. 10 photos! That's a lot. Someone's definitely getting off to this.

With reference to US "Don't Ask Don't Tell," it was actually a progressive reform when it was implemented, because before that if they caught you doing "gay stuff," or visiting a gay bar, or hanging with the wrong people, or reading the wrong publications you got a dishonorable discharge. DADT still kicked people out for telling, but they didn't really stop asking. It was really Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Be Too Easy To Catch.

Turkey's policy, like many of their other policies and laws, is absurd to the point of almost being a crime against humanity.

The US policy of gays in the military is basically "ain't none of my business" from 1994 to 2011 the US had Don't ask don't tell, that allowed closeted LGBTQ members to join the military but didn't allow "open LGBTQ" members to join, it wasn't until it was repleaded that allowed open LGBTQ members can join the military

also, the US hasn't had a draft since 1973 and is an all-volunteer army

during The American revolutionary war a gay Prussian general, Baron von Steuben trained and disciplined American soldiers and even wrote a "Blue Book" of military guidelines that some are still used today

Openly gay Revolutionary war hero Friedrich von Steuben

@AmericanButterfly Thanks for that. Really interesting.

Also interesting to note that he was effectively exiled having been "personal aide" to Frederick the Great - another famous military whoopsie.

Huh, you'd think they'd be scared of tops. Or is it because bottoms are seen as weak? Homophobia is weird. Never made sense to me.

@Tavpier Receiving is considered the feminine part by a certain type of homophobes, yes. (IMHO those who are in the closet themselves...)

@Tavpier Usually hate doesn't make any sense.

I remember reading about the bawdy graffiti written on the walls of a Pompey bathouse that were destroyed in 79AD by Mount Vesuvius and rediscovered early last century. On the walls, written in Latin, where the words,( translated into English), "You're only a Eunuch if you take it up the arse'. "Alas fair maidens, I bid you farewell, I have now found love up boys arses". Linius was here, only knew 6 maidens, too few for such a stallion". "Put on you're party hats and make love to pretty boys, you can't do that once your dead". And a poem in Latin that translated to rhyme in English, "Your cock and your nose are so big, if you please, that when you bend over, smell the cheese". Not as high brow as some of the more known scholars, but it was the 1st century equivalent of drawing a massive cock on a toilet wall.

@Ayrshireladdie Ancient Romans were just like modern day people. Joking about sex has always been a fun tradition around the world.

What if you're a switch tho (as in could top or bottom)

@SchrodySweden They don't have to know that... Just give them the right picture

@Lumpex fair enough

Soooo...if a couple switches even just once, is the usual top who gains the exemption, or the usual bottom who loses it? This seems a splendid example of a loophole-cheatable law LOL

@Talemin This is a great question

@Talemin Depends on which one you have a photograph of I guess?....

I'm more surprised they haven't made it illegal.

@Steeeve Homosexuality was decriminalized as early as 1858, during the Tanzimat reforms.

@Steeeve Yay Progress!