Scandinavia and the World

How old?

How old?

I’ve drawn Denmark as younger than Sweden and Norway a few times, but that had to do with the age of the landmass. This shows how old the Nordics are as countries.

Denmark’s birth is from when it became a united country instead of tribes fighting each other, Sweden is from King Gustav Vasa's crowning and Norway, Finland and Iceland are from when they became fully independent from all other countries.

Norway is a bit tricky though, because he could also be said to be around the same age as Denmark. But this is how it's usually done.

22nd October 2010

Tagged in Sweden Norway Denmark Iceland Finland

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2 days ago #9350412        

Hello, Here is something to think to my nordics cousins, which are Written about in Sagas of the Orkneyingers, Finland/Kvenland is much older (links under).
As you may know Kvens are an old Finnish tribe who lived in Finland/Kvenland (same thing than Finland today) and they descentands are living in Norway today.

Our earliest “known” connection; King Fornjot of Finland
July 22, 2010 by mickisuzanne

Born about 530
Father of Kari

“” says: “Old Russian tales tell of a Finnish prince who hired a giant to help him conquer Russia from Estonia to Kiev. The giant’s name was Calewa (Kaleva). After finishing this task the prince gave the giant Kvenland as his own kingdom.”

Research suggests that Fornjot was:

– A giant (jötun), as indicated by his name
– Finland’s first and most powerful ruler
– Kalev of the Kalevala, the epic poem of Finland
– The first known direct paternal ancestor of William I of England
– A terminal ancestor of many European noble families and modern Icelandic families

He was:

– The subject of the Fundinn Noregr, the History of Norway
– Written about in Sagas of the Orkneyingers

Ancestry Back Through William the Conqueror
to Fornjot, King of Finland

John Major Jenkins, April 2004.

Part 1.

From the Sagas of the Orkneyingers (same king list found also in Heimskringla):

THERE was a king named Fornjot1, he ruled over those lands which are called Finland and Kvenland; that is to the east of that bight of the sea which goes northward to meet Gandvik; that we call the Helsingbight. Fornjot had three sons; one was named Hler, whom we call Aegir, the second Logi, the third Kari; he was the father of Frost, the father of Snow the Old, his son’s name was Thorri; he (Thorri) had two sons, one was named Norr and the other Gorr; his daughter’s name was Goi.


25 M
1 month ago #9338284        

Finland came to be no later than 1809, though the Grand Duchy had existed (on paper at least) ever since the 16th century.


22 M
1 month ago #9334240        

Norway was unified in the viking age, most likely somewhere between 870 and 890.

And Iceland shortly after.


999 M
2 months ago #9331283        

Sweden was formed in the 11'th century (as a united country)



21 M
2 months ago #9328096        

So technically Denmark is supposed to be the parent... that's a scary thought.

2 months ago #9327937        

Only because Denmark invaded us we are seen as younger? not fair! xD
We are at least as old as Sweden.
And weren't Norway ´´born´´again at 1814 not 1905? Norway turned 200 last year... ;)

2 months ago #9326060        

@Niobesnuppa makes a great point, Since this comic describes when the countries where born, they should be displayed as such.

Sweden is generally considered a country from when we had a king that was accepted by the people of both Svealand and Götaland. This was achieved when Olof Skötkonung son of Erik Segersäll inherited the crown in 995.

As for Norway it was united under King Harald Hårfagre in the year of 872 after the battle of Hafrsfjord.

2 months ago #9323696        

Aw, little Icy is adorable! Finland's cute too. Though I'm pretty sure Norway was a country before it got under Danish and then Swedish rule and thus he should be older. And wasn't Sweden a nation before Kalmar Union?


16 F
2 months ago #9322110        

Finland turns a hundred the 6th december 2017... xD

3 months ago #9310593        

Sparkle baby Iceland :D

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