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Evil Flag



Some time ago I talked with a German girl about the use of flags in Germany. She told me that the only time it is seen as okay to be waving the German flag is at sport events and official buildings. The rest of the time the fear of feeling national pride is too big. It is in fact so bad that some Germans even feel uncomfortable when they see other countries waving it at hotels and the like.

In Scandinavia we use our flags completely different, but it’s not like in North America where you see flags everywhere as a sign of national pride.
Every time we have a celebration of any kind we raise the flags, because here our flags doesn’t so much symbolise national pride as much as it has become a symbol of happiness, joy and having a good time. And something I haven’t seen in other countries is that we use it when celebrating birthdays. So if you walk by a house here and see 20 small flags in the front yard, it’s not because the people living there are nationalists. It just means someone is celebrating their birthday.

We even put the flags on Christmas trees like so http://www.museum-sonderjylland.dk/BILLEDERNE/web-dansk-juletrae.jpg http://naturvern.imaker.no/data/b/0/98/41/7_2701_0.jpg http://www.airynothing.com/photos/2005_Christmas_Montreal/2005_Christmas_Montreal-Thumbnails/108.jpg :XD:

11th August 2010
 


677 Comments:
 
9 days ago #9206435        

@Svamlet Well put, I couldn't agree more :)



Corson

34 M
13 days ago #9203124        

The whole thing about flags is that they're symbols of whatever you use them for. The flag itself has no meaning or intent. It's just cloth. You give it its meaning by using it. Generally speaking the Danish flag symbolizes celebration of some kind. Birthdays, graduations, weddings etc. etc. And you may even see towns have flags lining the sides of the street on various days of celebration like town fair or whatever.
In general there's no nationalism tied to our flag at all. Well, maybe a bit at football events, but even then it's mostly about happiness. You can look up videos about Danish football fans at various events. They're generally well liked, since they're there to watch football, get insanely drunk and have fun. They're generally very social and drink and party with "the enemies" (lol) as well. There's no "WE'RE #1! EVERYONE ELSE SUCKS!" about it.
Of course nationalists etc. use it as well, and then it means anything BUT celebration and happiness. But Danes refuse to let the nationalists, racists, neo-nazis etc. "steal" the flag. If normal Danes stop using it in the name of celebration, the only meaning that remains is a bad one, and then the flag "becomes" bad, which would be a terrible loss for our country, in my opinion.

I see the German flag the same way. If the Germans start using it for happy stuff, the bad meaning will eventually wear off. Hiding it does nothing besides making sure it never gets a new and better meaning in the minds of people. The same goes for the national anthem btw. Hitler didn't make the song, and editing it just makes it "his". If I was king of Germany, I'd sing the song and fly the flag. None of them are evil and only have whatever meaning you decide to give them. Use them at happy events and their meaning becomes a happy one.. Use them for evil shit, and it becomes a symbol of evil.

The American flag is sort of the same. It has a different meaning in the minds of a lot of people because of how it's being used. It has a different meaning in most peoples' minds than our Danish flag does for example, but just like the German flag, it means whatever you want it to mean. If you're not happy about what it symbolizes, use it differently. You can only change its meaning by using it. Not by hiding it.

Of course some people will get the wrong idea about why you're using the flag, if you're going to try to change its meaning, but that's just life. Changes tend to take some time.. You'll just have to explain it to people once in a while until they get used to it. If you have flags outside your home every day of the year, it does kinda give it that nationalistic feel, but if you only use it when celebrating something, it will eventually be THAT feeling that's tied to it.

Most Danes don't even think twice if we see Danish flags somewhere (Okay, somewhere that's not in a group of skinheads..) We just assume people are celebrating something and are having a good time.



16 days ago #9200817        

@Svamlet It's amazing how one little thing can completely overshadow everything else.



Svamlet

24 M
26 days ago #9191694        

Germany, you have an over 1000 year old history. That douchebag Hitler is a pathetically small part of that. You should show pride over your country, without shame!



27 days ago #9190957        

I actually don't see our flag much anywhere, except at schools which have made it a tradition to raise one outside the front. Or it could be I tuned it out and there are thousands around me right now.



araglas

25 F
1 month ago #9179773        

know what the real sad thing is? when some germans put their flags out at wc and ec (don´t know if this the correc english shortcut is. i german is it em for europa meisterschaft) other FELLOW germans say "you can´t do that! if you do that, you are a nazi. using flags leads to National Socialism."

in moments like those i get the feeling, that i need to feel sorry for beeing german. nobody says a thing if other nationalitys show their flags...



1 month ago #9178543        

The German flag is a strange plant that flowers every four years during the soccer world cup.



1 month ago #9176903        

Love the German flag. It's my favorite tricolour.



Satu

27 M
2 months ago #9163190        

Some people even hate it during sport events to show their flag. My little car window Flag was ripped off twice during the last WM in 2010 T_T Not to forget the little "You're a Nazi Faggot" note which I found glued on my poor car. -.- Personally I don't mind waving flags at all but I understand our emotional scar that was left after the WW2 and the little dislike for waving the national flag to proudly.
As funny as it sounds, having your Bundesland (federal state?!?) flag outside is no problem at all.



3 months ago #9149818        

As a german I can confirm: Nobody here actually shows a spark of national pride, except there is a sport event or something similiar.



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