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We just got our first wolf family in Denmark in 200 years, and the first thing some politicians want to do is kill them.

14th July 2017

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4 months ago #9658996        
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Many decades ago, wolves were seen killing the deer in Grand Canyon National Park (Arizona & Nevada). People fretted and said, "Poor deer! We must save them from big, bad wolves." After all the wolves were then removed/killed, the deer population promptly exploded and then stripped the Grand Canyon of much of it's greenery, then the deer starved to death due to a lack of a natural predator controlling the local population. The Grand Canyon STILL has not recovered to its former vegetation state before man interfered. And in Yellowstone National Park, up in Wyoming, they have reintroduced wolves and the forest is growing and recovering much faster because they wolves control the elk population, which was eating young tree saplings, slowing forest recovering from a major forest fire a few decades ago.

I bet with the introduction of wolves, you'll have more forest regrowth, and more control over rabbit and rat populations.

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4 months ago #9659077        
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It can be a difficult subject to decide on. Denmark isn't as big as Germany, Sweden and Norway, so some people are scared that wolves will get to close to areas populated by humans.
Then there's the farmers who have very legit concerns that wolves will attack their animals. It has already happend with some attacks on sheep. This is an issue that needs to be fixed if there is to be any hope of the wolves being allowed to remain in the country (After all, it was the reason they were driven to extinction before).
The whole 'Wolves will kill our babies!' is, however, a stupid argument. Wolves are shit scared of humans so they won't run over and eat your baby - unless you let your 8 year old child walk all alone in isolated areas. But honestly, then a wolf would be the least of your concerns! And being scared they'll kill your dog? Well, then don't let your dog off the leash! You're already not allowed to do that in most of the wooded areas in Denmark! Just follow the damn rules and the wolf won't come over and eat your dog.


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Amalyte

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4 months ago #9658970        
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Just to make a note here: the politicians have discussed *regulating* the wolves, not killing them all off.
In my mind, this means deciding how many wolves to allow in the Danish nature, how and when to regulate them, and how and when to act when they start posing threat to our "forest kindergardens" and domestic animals like sheep and other "ecological" or free-range lifestock.

Deciding how to regulate them now is just an attempt of due diligence - not speciocide.
This drama is merely an example of media creating a new sensation out of nothing. Someone says "ok, now we have wolves here, be better figure out how many we should allow before it becomes a problem", and then someone else says "OMG, you're gonna kill all of them, you bastard".

That being said, I understand the notion of fear for this animal. The most dangerous and lethal wild life animal we've had in our nature for decades is the tick. We're used to be able to let kids and pets be (mostly) free in the open without any need for worry. And when i see people interviewed who are against regulation of the wolves, they live in large cities like Copenhagen. Far, far away from the forests in Jutland where the wolves are. I'd like to see two things:
1: people in southern Jutland who are happy for the return of the wolves
2: capture of wolves, setting them free in the backyard of con-regulation people, and then hear if they still think they shouldn't be regulated. Then i'd care more about what they have to say.

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4 months ago #9660096        
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Sadly, Norwegians are just as bad on this front. Sheep farmers here can't be bothered to hire shepherds or actually watch over their sheep, so instead they just shove their sheep off into the forest for a few weeks and expect the wolves to just behave and not attack the easy food source. Also, everytime a sheep dies they seem to blame wolves, even though they've only been able to prove the sheep were killed by wolves around 5% of the time, the rest of the cases were accidents, diseases and other wild predators such as lynxes and bears. They treat wolves like a convenient scapegoat. If these guys had their way, our entire country would just be one giant baby-proofed park with all wild animals extinct.

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MiskisM

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4 months ago #9659476        
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It is usually big citie's people who defend wolves. Yeah, meat grows on trees or maybe in markets. I wonder what would they say if they couldnt get their hamburger or if the meat price skyrocketed...

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4 months ago #9659008        
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Perhaps the Danes should build a wall against the wolves and make them pay for it?

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4 months ago #9658890        
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@SydneyCarton #9658865
Yeah, like the purity of the white race or European culture.

BellaU2

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4 months ago #9661055        
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There is a fascinating study in the link below about the wolves and how they corrected the Ecosystem in Yellowstone National Park after they were reintroduced. So much, that it changed the flow of rivers because the vegetation was allowed to grow back once the deer and elk populations were culled by the wolf packs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q

Unfortunately - Now with our current government we have idiots who want to be able to kill bear and wolf families in their dens during hibernation - cause that's going to be enable all the big bad hunters to experience the thrill of the hunt - Fidiots! :-(

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DerDings

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4 months ago #9659768        
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At least we know who has won in https://satwcomic.com/happy-friendly-animals

4 months ago #9659261        
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As the world becomes more heavily populated and as more countries implement strong gun control laws the balance between preserving nature and protecting the rights of people will become more difficult. We like the idea of wild wolves. But do we like the idea of wild wolves in our yard when our kids want to play? Do we like the idea of wild wolves when we want to go hiking or biking through the forest? Should people who raise sheep and other livestock be compensated whenever they lose money to wolves because the government won't let them protect their herds? It's wonderful when you have enough land for large nature preserves like Yellowstone in America. But outside of those preserves it will always be hard to find the right balance.

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