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Break the bars

Break the bars

Fun fact: The Scandinavian prisons are practically hotels compared to most other places in the world, but you have to pay for your stay. When you get out a bill is sent to you so tax payers won't have to pay for your stupidity. The government will then help you get back into society so you can get a job and pay it off.

29th December 2016

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10 months ago #9572945        



Omg, Russia is date-raping from behind. Chloroform doesn't work with people that have so high tolerance for vodka. :XD:

And I have to point out, that Sweden is not under American protection, but under Finland's protection. Finland has never had American protection, and our army has never been defeated. It would continue fighting from the woods even in the event of occupation. And our army has by far the biggest artillery in EU and military reserve of a million men. Occupying Finland would be really expensive and would gain just about nothing but trouble.

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35 F
10 months ago #9573197        



The more I read about Murica the more I doubt that it is a first world country

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22 M
10 months ago #9573128        



Isn't tax evasion the one crime in the nordics that gets you a 10+ year sentence? But rape? Nah, 21 days of community service for you! Sweden yes.

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10 months ago #9573129        



America is, sadly, a country addicted to bloody and biblical, old-testament style vengeance, not 'corrections' or rehabilitating anyone so they can return as a useful member of society. Never has been nor, unless there are deep psychological changes in the national mindset, especially of the allegedly bucolic rural areas where it is preached from altar, pulpit and civic podium, will there ever be. If it weren't for the Constitution, Vlad ČšepeČ™ could probably have been the most popular judge sitting the bench or warden in many states. Nothing is more appreciated in many places than a maximum penalty prosecutor, a 'hanging judge' or a warden from hell.

And once you're in the system, the 'System' is never willing to let go, even if you are an innocent caught in the web. Nor will the System, more than very rarely admit a mistake or punish prosecutorial wrongdoing, such as lying to the jury to convict or deliberately withholding exculpatory evidence from the defense. Many judges in the NorthEast are said to refer to cop's testimony on the stand as 'testilying.' Even when the evidence clears a suspect, many times the charges aren't tossed, just modified... See ->

One reason for mass-incarceration is convict labor. After the Civil War, the slaves were freed - except in one special case under the 13th Amendment; the government can keep slaves and engage in 'involuntary servitude' for anyone 'duly convicted' of a crime. Convicts quickly replaced freed slaves as a source of cheap labor that could be rented out to private individuals or used by the states throughout the South. The concept worked very well and spread to other places that had never had the benefits of a captive slave population until then,

Another was as a tool of social control to segregate and manage the lower classes; the book calls it for what it is, prisons and felony convictions are the "New Jim Crow" and it works not only against those of color and the poor, under-educated whites but it is now being turned on the middle classes as well.

Maybe the worst reason is the System can NEVER VOLUNTARILY ADMIT A MISTAKE!

And no, I have never been in trouble, or had a conviction... just been awake and seeing wrongs and injustices other people have gone through for the last 50 odd years even when it was allegedly for their own good, so no, I may love my country and I love the American Dream and all it stood for, but I know that dream isn't real anymore.

Language warning; George Carlin ->

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10 months ago #9573077        



Kidnapping Finland? A new landmark in the history of bad ideas.

10 months ago #9572880        



Reminds me of this, a retired Superintendent for Attica State Prison (in Buffalo, NY) visiting some Nordic prisons.

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40 M
10 months ago #9572928        



Percentages, huh... Well 37% of incarcerated are blacks even though overall they're 10% and another 35% are hispanics who overall are only 16%. And what percentage of blacks and mexicans do Scandinavians have?

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15 O
9 months ago #9584719        



For every non-American reading this:

Trump is not America
Our Government is not America
Hatred, intolerance, and brutality is not America

We are America
We the People

The largest demonstration in US history happened on Saturday. We, the People, protested against hatred, intolerance, and brutality. We refuse to be represented by somebody like Trump.

We the People are America

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10 months ago #9572947        



This is just brilliant. And true. The problem is that anything that remotely smells of socialism is terrifying for the US. Point is, as long as you take care of everyone's basic needs, crime goes down. And as long as you invest in your citizens by offering them help instead of sentences, you have more people returning to society instead of crime. It's a win-win.

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10 months ago #9572873        



I still can't get over the makeover that USA got.

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